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Michael asked: Greg, I guess pragmatism as a whole philosophy would be arbitrary by its nature, then? And other non-objective philosophies would hold (some or all) arbitrary views as well?

In regard to Dr. Peikoff's statement,

"An arbitrary idea must be given the exact treatment its nature demands. One must treat it as though nothing had been said. The reason is that, cognitively speaking, nothing has been said. One cannot allow into the realm of cognition something that repudiates every rule of that realm,"

it is very evident that a refutation using facts isn't working to combat such arbitrary assertions. How then does someone with an objective pursuit of values address these claims and invalidate them in today's political culture? It sounds like...I can't?

Greg S. replied: In response to your last question: One can't reach someone insofar as he's irrational. All one can do is expose the irrationality--for others who may be present, and for the person himself, who retains the ability to rise to the occasion and embrace reason. So about Trump (and most of the other candidates who do the same thing, but less brazenly), one can just point out that instead of answering the questions or giving reasons, they're just playing games with words. You can point out that this isn't how someone who cares about what's true comports himself.

As to pragmatism as a philosophy: One has to distinguish ordinary people who are pragmatic and pragmatism as a philosophy. I don't think that Trump is a pragmatist in the philosophical sense. Kennedy was, and even Nixon, but Trump's not as sophisticated as that. He doesn't have a philosophy. He's just a garden variety anti-conceptual mentality--the sort of person whose mental functioning pragmatism accurately describes, but not an adherent to the pragmatism as a theory. Such people's functioning in the realm of abstractions is basically all arbitrary. If we're talking about the philosophy of pragmatism as maintained by the philosophers who offer arguments for it (e.g. by Dewey or by Rorty or Brandom) or by their students--then, like any other theory, it's not arbitrary in these people's minds to whatever extent they believe it based on the (real or seeming) strength of arguments offered, rather than accepting it as a rationalization for some feeling. Most people's acceptance of most philosophical theories (including true ones) involves is a mixture of these two sorts of motivations, and intellectual honesty requires a proactive commitment to the one sort of motivation and deliberate rooting out of the other.

Anon said: I agree with Michael; I definitely think the explanation that what's meaningful as fantasy becomes meaningless and indeterminate when treated as a real hypothesis, would be greatly helped by some concretization. It's difficult to see how this would happen, especially since we can turn concepts (?) in our minds of things that don't yet exist in extramental reality into inventions that do--and since the concept can often be an effective guide to the actions that result in the object being produced, (in combination with other relevant knowledge.) (To be strictly and technically correct, what I should say is that we can use a concept of imagination to create units of that concept, when there were none before.)

Of course, an arbitrary claim is always going to be a proposition, not merely a concept. So I suppose the process of going from meaningful-as-imagination to meaningless-as-applied to reality would have to derive--at least in part--from the fact that what one is uttering is a proposition.

Greg S. replied: We can only turn ideas for inventions into actual inventions, when the ideas are based on actual knowledge of actual potentialities of real things, and such ideas aren't mere fantasies. I don't mean that we need to know all the details of how to do it, but there needs to be enough for it to be a rational (evidence-based) hypothesis that the thing can be built. Making up things in the way that fiction writers do in other contexts--e.g., making up zombies or flying horses, or motors that convert static electricity into current--does not give us any sort of guide for producing those things in reality. Some cases of science-fiction are on the borderline between these two sorts of cases--for example "warp drives" and "communicators" in Star Trek. But even here the science-fiction doesn't provide a direct guide to actions that enable us to produce the things, what it does is to concretize the broad sorts of fruits that a field of inquiry might later yield, and therefore serve as (among other things) a stimulus to further thought along those lines.

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Michael asks: I would love to see some concrete examples of arbitrary claims and how they are handled, if not from the comments then taken from contemporary news or political issues.

Greg S. replied: If you want examples of arbitrary assertions, where it's easy to see that they are meaningless, listen to Donald Trump, and read the many threads on which he and his supporters respond to criticisms or questions about his assertions. Here are just two small examples:

(1) His claim to have seen TV footage of thousands of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City on 9/11. This claim may have simply been false when Trump first uttered it--he may have simply mis-remembered something he saw. But it was clearly arbitrary in the mind of everyone who held it a day or two later, as the debate raged, and it was made clear that there was no such footage. And at this point the claim lacked any specific meaning as held and defended by these people. We can see this is by looking at the sorts of things that they cited as "support" for the claim--for example the evidence of a dozen people briefly celebrating in Paterson. Project the state of a mind that takes that as supporting Trump's initial claim that thousands were celebrating in Jersey City. It's a mind in which words do not have specific meanings. Instead there's one's own tribe (the Trump supporters) and the other tribe that opposes you, and language is a sort of game in which one adopts postures to score points against the other side.

(2) Trump's more recent claim that Trump Steaks was not a failure (as Mitt Romney had claimed it was.) Watch Trump respond to Anderson Cooper's questions about this. The meanings of "Trump Steaks," "available," and "nationwide" shifts to whatever suits Trump's mood in a given moment, which is to say that the terms have no specific meaning in Trump's mouth.

Mark H. replies: The video shows Trump saying he (meaning the Trump steak business) doesn’t produce the steaks, he buys them from various places (though unstated, the purchased steaks would meet standards set by him) then sells them to various outlets. From the beginning he is up front that he is not in the butchering business. Throughout he is consistent in saying he buys and sells the steaks.

In other words, though he doesn’t say it, what people are buying (besides the steak) is a Good Housekeeping seal for steaks. (Whether or not they live up to the seal I don’t know.) Trump hires a contractor to build his hotels. Trump quality hotels, Trump quality steaks.

This fits the video a lot better than “terms have no specific meaning in Trump’s mouth” – good grief.

Greg S. replies: When Trump's critics speak of Trump Steaks they're referring not to some alleged butchering enterprise nor to anything whatsoever that Trump may ever do involving beef, but to a specific enterprise that existed briefly in 2007 and shortly thereafter selling frozen meet to the general public by mail order under the Trademark Trump Steaks. That endeavor was not successful, and was discontinued, with the trademark "Trump Steaks" being canceled in 2014. It's no great blemish on Trump's business record that this particular venture was unsuccessful; business often involves trying different ventures, not all of which pan out. But it's this venture that "Trump Steaks" means when Trump's critics cite it as an example of something he failed at.

When Trump responds, "Trump Steaks" has to refer to this same venture in order for what he's saying to be any sort of response to these critics. But, when he claims that the venture still exists, it doesn't mean this any more, but now (momentarily) refers to any business he's involved with that deals with meat in any way. Likewise "available nation wide" goes from meaning available to anyone anywhere in the nation to available in the restaurants of a number of exclusive resorts located in different parts of the nation.

When someone uses words in this shifting way (which isn't uncommon among politicians), nothing he says on any occasion commits him to anything specific the following year or the following moment, which is to say that his words have no specific meanings.

I'm not going to debate this example further. I've described what I think Trump is doing in this clip and (by extension) what he's expecting his listeners to do to their minds in following his charade of reasoning. If you have some very different way of interpreting the exchange, so be it. But then surely you can imagine a politician acting in the slippery manner I'm ascribing to Trump here (perhaps you think that Obama or Hillary or Cruz operates in this way, as they probably all have on some occasion or other).

The point of having the concept "arbitrary" isn't that we can infallibly identify when other people are engaging in it and use the label to damn them. We need the concept to name a disastrous way of using one's mind so that we can avoid falling into it in our own mental lives.

Mark H. replied: Apparently Trump didn’t want to admit that “Trump Steaks” failed and he dissembled in his reply. It’s a stretch to go from the mole hill of refusing to admit a small defeat to the mountain of an idea that words are meaningless to him. He knows what the words meant, and lied.

That’s too bad but his supporters – who support him for his stand against immigration and TARP (NAFTA, GATT and other globalist treaties) – won’t care if he blustered about Trump Steaks when Anderson Cooper tried to play “Gotcha.”

And I don’t think they ought to care. His behavior wasn’t typical. Trump couldn’t have master-managed the building of skyscrapers if words were meaningless to him, or if he were dishonest in his business dealings. Though not perfect, Trump is more honest than any politician we’ve seen in many a year. He doesn’t deserve to be trashed because of ill-considered braggadocio over steaks.

Indeed there is the concept of “arbitrary” – the classic example being the claims of astrology – but it doesn’t apply to Trump where it matters.

Greg S. replied: I disagree. I think the way he handled the Trump Steaks issue is an example in miniature of how he's handled every issue in his campaign, and that, despite his reputation, he's the least straight talking candidate of a particularly unsavory and dishonest lot (on both sides). But I don't want to turn this blog into a debate about politics, so let's not pursue this further.

Also, re Trump's having master-managed the building of skyscrapers: I don't know that's an accurate description of what he did in his business career, but even if it is, it's not inconsistent with the claim that his functioning is essentially arbitrary in large domains. People are capable of compartmentalizing, and there are many examples of people who are very thoughtful and capable within a certain sphere, but not outside of it. To take the classic example of astrology, to which you allude, there are people who are rational in their performance of their jobs, but who consult astrologers about their love lives.

Whether or not I'm right about Trump in particular, though, the general point is that these assessments about whether a claim is arbitrary or cognitive need to be made with respect to each individual claim in the context in which it's made. And what's most important--more important than judging the person making the claim--is how it stands in one's own mind and how (therefore) one will proceed regarding it.

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